Spinosaurus (JP3) vs. Rexy (JW)

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Spinosaurus (JP3) vs. Rexy (JW)
Tweet Topic Started: Jun 20 2015, 04:13 AM (7,689 Views)
+ Pyrus	Jun 20 2015, 04:13 AM Post #1
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	A rivalry originating mostly from Jurassic Park 3, I figured it'd be interesting to see the responses now that Jurassic World has come out. SIZE Rexy: 43 feet long, 17 feet tall Spino: 41-59 feet long, 13 feet high (not including sail) WEIGHT Rexy: 6.6-9 tonnes (14,550-19,841 pounds) Spino: 7-20.9 tonnes (15,432-46,076 pounds) Rexy is royalty, being the original Tyrannosaur from Jurassic Park, just 22 years older, which should make her bigger and stronger in Jurassic World. She's going up the Spinosaurus from Jurassic Park 3. My take is that the Rex from JP3 was a sub-adult male, so he was smaller than a fully grown adult female like Rexy, and the Spinosaurus had its hands full with him. Rexy was able to tango with the Indominus Rex for a bit before being overwhelmed by its strength (which is understandable as it was created to be bigger and better than the Rex). With Rexy being around the same size as the Spinosaur, and being a much bigger and stronger specimen, I think she'd definitely take home the victory, especially since from what we saw of her in JW, she goes right for the neck, which should be an insta-kill move.
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Tinny	Jun 27 2015, 05:07 AM Post #46
Posts: 6,061 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	miguelnuva Jun 27 2015, 04:44 AM A stomp is Vegeta vs Dodoria or Frieza vs Vegeta, the fact Sp8no was on the losing in means the fight wasn't a stomp. Also unlike JP III Spino doesn't have a director that hates T-Rex backing him up here also has was Spino any faster then any other Big Dino. But it wasn't, it was on the defensive the same way Tien was against Tao, and you cannot tell me that was anything but a stomp. Like only one attack even drew blood. Granted the way it won was silly to say the least, I half expect to start busting out karate moves after that, but since the director decided to make it like that... We got super Spinosaurus.
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+ Pyrus	Jun 27 2015, 06:48 AM Post #47
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	tin man Jun 27 2015, 01:16 AM I qualify it as such because the spinosaurus never seemed to be in trouble after shrugging off the bite. (I'll admit i wasn't even sure if that was blood or leaves flying, though I'll admit it seemed top draw some blood.) And for that matter, again, it was on the defensive in the sense that the T-rex was attacking, but like, look at Krillin vs Cell while absorbing 18, was Cell on the defensive? Was that an equal fight?, or did Tien vs Tao have Tao winning the fight for most of it? The T-rex had three hits in, and only one even drew blood, though it didn't slow him down, the Spinosaurus only needed one shot to kill it. The spinosaurus exited the fight without any sort of lasting injury and apparently hunts them. Rexy has nothing every close to that impressive, other than surviving the i-rex with the help of Blue distracting it. Those fights are quite a bit different from this one. We know Tenshinhan was far above Tao, so him being on the defensive doesn't even really matter that much. What we don't see is the Spinosaurus being leagues above the sub-adult T.rex, so him being on the defensive whilst still actively trying to fight back, showed a much more equal pedestal. That isn't nearly the same as Kami finger-flicking Goku, or Vegeta sodomizing Dodoria, or any of the other DBZ examples that could be used here to greater show what a disgusting stomp is. lazerbem Jun 27 2015, 01:34 AM Quote: All of that was off-screen, though. It can only be inferred that Cooper used the Einhorn, or that any of those shots hit. We heard two sets of shots, the second being louder than the first and after Nash and Udesky had retreated back to the plane. I'm inclined to say they didn't connect based on the Spino's hip being damaged by the plane running into it, and the T.rex making the Spino bleed a few minutes after that. 20mm incendiary rounds being unable to do any damage whatsoever doesn't add up to me, not when Roland went in expecting his elephant gun to take down a buck T.rex and other dinosaurs have been brought down (or expected to be) by modern weapons; that wasn't the Indominus they were firing at, after all, who we physically saw survive gunfire. How could he possibly miss something that large? It's not like the Indominus where it can camo and it has a far larger profile as well, not to mention being extremely aggressive. Also, why would Cooper be so distraught and trying to run if his shots had only missed? Surely he'd be trying to shoot the damn thing and not be running away crying because he missed twice. Cooper had every right to run. He was clearly injured, implying the Spino had made some sort of strike on him, and his two partners had bolted without him. The hunters from TLW were all running from the raptors and they were armed, too. It was all off-screen, so we have no way of knowing what went down in that jungle. Not to mention that if Udesky's case is anything to go by, he wasn't a real mercenary, so the extent of his training is a mystery. Quote: The plane also never connected with the Spinosaur's hip, what are you referring to? I see no scars on the Spinosaurus's side. Do you mean the blood splatter? I thought that was Cooper's blood. If it hit the Spinosaurus, I think there would be a scar at least. If it in fact was hit and the only result was a bit of blood spatter, that makes it seem even more uber since having part of plane rotor slam into it is apparently on par with a paper cut. Roland expecting to take down the T-rex doesn't mean much when it's clear he knows jacks*** about dinosaurs("Friar Tuck"). Also, the Spinosaurus was on steroids by comparison to every other dinosaur in the previous movies. As for the Indominus, its best concrete feat is tanking several shotgun blasts to the face by that one ACU guy. However, it was slowed down by them as it allowed the other two ACU members to escape whilst one of them was wounded(their heartrate doesn't go down) Cooper had already been scooped up and the Spino was halfway across the runway before the plane got to it, so it was definitely the Spino that got hit. You can also see the wound during the T.rex fight, although I understand never seeing it before because it's not in-your-face and the action goes so quickly you really have to know what you're looking for. large images If a small tourist plane could do that, 20mm incendiary rounds should have easily inflicted damage, yet there wasn't anything that I could find indicating such. Quote: It's a stomp based on the fact that T-rex's bite draws pitifully tiny amounts of blood and leaves no scarring and his headbutt does nothing. The Spinosaurus also doesn't really seem all that pained by it and only makes a couple of grunts. The Spinosaurus's bite has the T-rex screaming like no-tomorrow and bleeding everywhere(the blood might just be be the stripes). Basically, to see why this is a stomp, imagine if this was done with humanoid creatures. Creature 1 bites Creature 2's neck, Creature 2 bleeds a small amount but is mostly okay. Creature 2 shoves off Creature 1 and has a couple of punches dodged before being shoulder tackled. Creature 2 then grabs Creature 1's neck and snaps it. Imagine a fight like that in DBZ even, it would be labeled a stomp The Spino was also bellowing when the T.rex had it in its jaws, so I don't see why it's only being counted against the latter. And there was no blood from the Spino's bite, but there were some scratch marks I just noticed around the Rex's gut and behind the thigh, so it looks like when the Spino was at a bad angle, it managed to at least scratch its opponent. Edited by Pyrus, Jun 27 2015, 06:49 AM.
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Tinny	Jun 27 2015, 01:53 PM Post #48
Posts: 6,061 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	Quote: . What we don't see is the Spinosaurus being leagues above the sub-adult T.rex, so him being on the defensive whilst still actively trying to fight back, showed a much more equal pedestal. Again, literally one attack even did anything aside from move him a little, and he was on the defensive for maybe a minute to be generous. Again, three attacks that did nothing (okay, it managed to make him bleed a little but that clearly didn't slow him down) vs one attack that killed him. Quote: The Spino was also bellowing when the T.rex had it in its jaws, so I don't see why it's only being counted against the latter. And there was no blood from the Spino's bite, but there were some scratch marks I just noticed around the Rex's gut and behind the thigh, so it looks like when the Spino was at a bad angle, it managed to at least scratch its opponent. No blood doesn't matter when that same strike kills the opponent cold.But even then, the Spino is clearly is doing more work to the rex than is having fine to himself. Rexy can put up a fight sure, but this Spino is so absurdly strong that Rexy has almost no chance to win. I suppose Rexy has a chance to win if she can get super spino to a large cliff and throw it there, if a if an adolescent can push him, she should be able to as well, but aside from that I'm not sure Rexy can do anything to get past the durability. In any case, I think we've reached an impasse. Edited by Tinny, Jun 27 2015, 04:54 PM.
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lazerbem	Jun 27 2015, 03:15 PM Post #49
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Quote: maybe a minute to be generous The fight was 25 seconds long. It made Indominus kicking Rexy's a*** look like a walk in the park by comparison of how badly the Spinosaurus dominated that
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+ Pyrus	Jun 27 2015, 07:22 PM Post #50
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Yep, we've definitely reached an impasse at that. We have different definitions of words and we've strayed a bit off-course, so there's no concluding this. Good chat, mates.
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Tinny	Jun 27 2015, 07:24 PM Post #51
Posts: 6,061 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	Pyrus Jun 27 2015, 07:22 PM Yep, we've definitely reached an impasse at that. We have different definitions of words and we've strayed a bit off-course, so there's no concluding this. Good chat, mates. Maybe this is a bit needless, but what do you define as a stomp, and simply close to a stomp? Thank you for the chat, I enjoyed partaking in it. Edited by Tinny, Jun 27 2015, 07:26 PM.
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+ Pyrus	Jun 27 2015, 08:48 PM Post #52
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	tin man Jun 27 2015, 07:24 PM Pyrus Jun 27 2015, 07:22 PM Yep, we've definitely reached an impasse at that. We have different definitions of words and we've strayed a bit off-course, so there's no concluding this. Good chat, mates. Maybe this is a bit needless, but what do you define as a stomp, and simply close to a stomp? Thank you for the chat, I enjoyed partaking in it. Vegeta vs Dodoria would be a good example of a total stomp. Vegeta was never on the defensive, he was enjoying his superiority, and he ended Dodoria quickly. Nail vs Freeza, Goku vs the Ginyus, 16 vs 2nd Form Cell, all would be stomps in my eyes. Closer to a stomp? Eh, that's harder to find, since most fights in the show were either stomps, somewhat even (Cell vs Goku), or even. I guess if I had to define it, it'd be if Fighter A was in control most of the fight, but a slip-up could've cost him, while some damage was done or implied to be plausible, and the ending to the fight wasn't as swift or brutal as it would be in the case of Fighter A being in complete control with a large advantage. I'm terrible at explaining things. Oh, and browsing the IMDb forums just now, I found that apparently the T.rex in JP3 was approached by Stan Winston Studios as being the grown-up baby from TLW. The source isn't 100% confirmed with a screenshot or anything yet, so keep that in mind. Kind of cool, at least.
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+ miguelnuva	Jun 28 2015, 01:15 AM Post #53
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	Its a fan theory that the Jp III T-Rex was the teenage form of the baby from the lost world. @Lazerbeam Spino didn't dominate anything.
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+ Pyrus	Jun 28 2015, 01:43 AM Post #54
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	miguelnuva Jun 28 2015, 01:15 AM Its a fan theory that the Jp III T-Rex was the teenage form of the baby from the lost world. @Lazerbeam Spino didn't dominate anything. Maybe, but there was apparently an online chat party the other night where fans could ask Winston Studios questions and that was one of them.
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Zoom	Jun 28 2015, 02:41 AM Post #55
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	Spino easily crushed t-rex's neck in the film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7tNqjsclhs but that was a movie, in real life was T-Rex a predator or a scavenger?



Tinny	Jun 28 2015, 03:03 AM Post #56
Posts: 6,061 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	Wonton Soup Jun 28 2015, 02:41 AM Spino easily crushed t-rex's neck in the film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7tNqjsclhs but that was a movie, in real life was T-Rex a predator or a scavenger? Can't you tell? It's obviously a herbivore. Spoiler: click to toggle
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